Doctor Pummels Fox Hosts Into Submission On Medicare For All

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59 thoughts on “Doctor Pummels Fox Hosts Into Submission On Medicare For All

    • +Kenny Mathis Apparently the host didn’t bother to do any prep work, or they could have found over a dozen vids that CITED the Mercatus/George Mason study as showing how M4A saves $2TN over the current system. But she tried the old trick of citing the estimated future cost without giving the current cost to compare it to. I guess “context” is too “complex” for her talking-points brain.

    • +CWG90 Can’t think of anything new, huh?

      1) Sanders leads every legitimate poll and is currently the front-runner for 2020.
      2) Actuarial tables estimate that Sanders should live to at least 92. (Longer, given the superior care that Presidents have access to.)
      3) Sanders is one of the *least* wealthy members of the Senate. He has one home he’s owned in Vermont going back to his days in municipal government, one that he’s purchased near DC, and one that Jane traded her inherited property in Maine for. But I suppose you’re opposed to inheritances, is that it?

      ETA: according to RollCall, Sanders is #423 out of 530 Congresspeople in wealth, and #39 out of 50 senators. Swing and a miss! (And Marco Rubio is presumably only behind him because he blew all his $$ on his presidential campaign.)

      https://www.rollcall.com/wealth-of-congress

      Lather, rinse, repeat…yawn. Back to David Brock’s troll farm, Hill-bot!

    • im just saying, i was in a hospital once in central alabama, and someone there was speaking with a british accent, and now im pretty much an expert in englands healthcare system.

    • Yep, and he also said that there were “patient deaths on the ward.” Shocking.

      From what I know, I think that some patients in some US hospitals might die sometimes. Of course, I could be wrong …

    • I’m British. Our system has its problems and faces challenges, but we don’t abandon anyone! One of the problems that results in is health tourism. We treat everyone. Maybe the panel member kept his wife in a filthy, desease-ridden NHS failure centre because it would’ve cost to go home? Sure, he’ll deny it, but if it really was as bad as he implies a loving husband would’ve sold the house to repatriate her?

  1. “The United Kingdom a country I knew very well because my wife was there for a month.”

    Never change Fox News. Never change.

    • +Malcolm Sprott Oh now. You miss the point here: right wingers want it all free for them, but they want to charge everyone else. Remember, one of the ways the rich stay rich is by not spending their money, but using it as influence so they can get tons of stuff for free (like not pay taxes).

    • I once watched Beverly hills cop for a month so i know everything there is to know about the police in los Angeles

    • I hope you kept your ticket.
      Though you’re probably not interested you could collect a social welfare pension for the layover in the future.

  2. Did Fox News just diss the NHS???
    OMG… our system has been keeping the country healthy for 70 years.
    DON’T YOU DARE paint our health care system as a third world system!!!

    • It’s not due to quality of care, but partly due to quantity of care. Americans consume a lot more health care than Europe. For example drugs, check-ups, regular screenings (which are usually pointless).

    • +WhiteRussianBC Not at all, as a physician this makes my blood boil. Preventative medicine is way, way cheaper.

      Not enough people in the US have a primary care physician from whom they receive regular checkups. It is significantly less expensive to screen and prevent your diabetes, hypertension, high cholesterol, etc than to deal with the damage those diseases have caused after going unnoticed for 20+ years.

    • ​+Jo Ko Sorry, I disagree. For an individual, sure it’s better to catch a disease early. But on a population-level, screening healthy people isn’t worth the cost. The benefits are outweighed by the costs, both economic and medical (due to overdiagnosis).

      My country recently decided to stop prostate screening of older men for precisely that reason. It only leads to overdiagnosis and misdiagnosis of people with benign prostatic hyperplasia. You can also read the statistics on breast cancer screening. They calculate a type of “NNC” (number needed to screen). More than 1000 women need to be screened for 10 years to prevent one death from breast cancer. Meanwhile, 500 of those women will be false positives, and 2-10 women will be overdiagnosed. Ergo, the harm outweighs the benefit. Read Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breast_cancer_screening#Effectiveness

  3. Bwahaha. They forgot to send the bribe check before they interviewed him. They thought they were getting a shill but they accidentally got an honest man. Lol.

  4. My personal Dr. who I have had for 20 years is a card carrying republican.He loves Trump and Bill O’Reilly. He told me just a month ago that the only way to fix our system is medicare for all. He also told me the Dr. friends he has feel the same way, and that they have for a very long time.
    If the Govt. is good enough to control your military, why not control the healthcare? It is a right…

    • Your doctor is absolutely correct about free-at-point-of-use healthcare – as for supporting Das Orange Anus, not so much!

    • They usually compare it to the VA (veteran affairs), which is a state-run health care program that is terribly inefficient and bureaucratic. The VA is always in the news for it’s long wait lists.

    • +WhiteRussianBC I live in Edinburgh, Scotland and, several years ago, spent over a year in British NHS hospitals – the treatment I received was absolutely brilliant, and it didn’t cost me a penny in insurance or co-pays.

    • +WhiteRussianBC Absolutely – in Britain, we’ve had free-at-point-of-use healthcare since 1947, and we live longer than Americans do…

    • +Richard Smart I’m not American and I’m not knocking the NHS. Although I think the reason Brits live longer is because they smoke less and eat more healthy than Americans.

  5. Gotta love how he went straight to calling universal healthcare soviet and communist while not adding a single piece of evidence then they cut off.

    • Absolutely – I live in Edinburgh, Scotland and, several years ago, I spent over a year in Scottish (British) NHS hospitals. The treatment I received was absolutely brilliant, and it didn’t cost me a penny. I did contract MRSA while in hospital, but that was nothing to do with the care I received…

    • Yeah…after they try the anecdotal trick and that fails they always play the “Commie” card. The really sad part is that most of the studies into single payer don’t even add in the benefits of scale. By that I mean the UK is 66 million people while the US is over 320 million…the economies of scale you leverage in a gap like that are enormous meaning we could be even more efficient than the UK (or any of the other smaller countries). Lastly…the right is always harping on how great the open market is…but then they make sure the market is never really “open”. Insurance companies can’t compete across state lines as just one of many examples.

  6. Republicans HATE it when poor people have access to medical care because they think they are winners, and to be a winner, there have to be losers.

    • +Joeyland You don’t need to respond to Republican talking points. They are as empty and vapid as their entire existence. Most of them usually come down to “I’m rubber, you’re a socialist.”

    • I do not agree. I think they think they are correct. Basically they are doing a very human thing, they are projecting their lived experiences and professional understanding on things they do not understand. We all do it, unless we are consciously aware of this issue. Health-care should be a single payer system. And it the cost of going to see a doctor should be such that it does not get abused, but that everyone can afford it when they require it.
      However, the other side of the coin is that patient-immigration is a real burden on the system.

      Example: I have recieved a few of my country-men that decades ago took all their money out of our country and has spent years in a tax-haven. But when they get sick, the bills would be very large, so they return to the country in which they have avoided paying taxes for so long. Basically, these people are re-immigrating because they want someone else to pay for their health-care. These people should be turned at the door, or forced to pay the un-subsidized cost for their care.

      This goes against my personally held humanistic ideals and the caritas so intrinsic to my profession. However, the stark reality is that any sort of patient-migration should be stopped. It is not just about stoping “brown” people from “leeching on the system” as right-wingers would say. But also about stopping those born in a country from abusing the systems they refuse to support.

      Ideologies are ideologies, and realities are realities. I might not like it, and you might not either. But there is no simple statement about other people that can come close to being true. The TV hosts are correct, but also wrong. Broad sweeping statements like the one you did and the one the TV hosts did are missing the reality of health-care by a metric mile.

    • +RT HJ Your entire example can be distilled to “but we have to think about the medical needs of rich tax criminals who illegally off-shore their money.”

  7. Simply removing the 20% off the top that the insurance comapnies steal in profit proves Universal Health Care is the only solution.

    • Add to that the savings from all the other paper shufflers, and the excess profits made by the pharmaceutical industry and you could easily fund UHC. Also, you wouldn’t need workers comp insurance, the VA or Medicaid and the medical liability part of your car insurance would go away.

  8. Statistics that involve millions in people in dozens of nations are what we should be basing our healthcare policies on; not a single anecdote from a millionaire gainfully employed by Fox News.

    It is sad that a Doctor is (and has to be) a better newsman than a prime time anchor.

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