47 years ago the nation's Medicaid and Medicare programs were born. We'll take a look at the history and evolution of those programs and the challenges they're facing today with a special emphasis on Arizona's Medicaid program, the Arizona Health Care Cost Containment System (AHCCCS), which is now in its 30th year. Guests include AHCCCS Director Tom Betlach and AARP Arizona State President Dr. Leonard Kirschner who is a former AHCCCS Director (1987-1993).